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S2 Ep11_Why Texas Counter Fitters is the Real Deal (Andrew Gilbert)

Monday June 7, 2021

It’s time for your design studio appointment and here comes the big question… What stone do you choose for your countertops??? Granite, Marble, Quartzite? We know the endless options can be overwhelming,  so we’ve brought in a very special guest to break down all the information you’ll need to know before making the big decision.  Andrew Gilbert, owner of Texas Counter Fitters, has over 15 years of experience in the stone Industry and comes with a wealth of knowledge about the different types of stone and how to choose the right one. Listen in as Andrew answers all the questions you might have about the stone selections offered in our Design Studio and provides the confidence you'll need to choose the perfect counter tops for your new home. 

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S2 Ep11_Why Texas Counterfitters are the Real Deal with Andrew Gilbert

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Introduction: [00:00:03] Welcome Home, a podcast brought to you by John Houston Homes. Join hosts, Chelsi Frazier and Whitney Pryor, as they walk you through the exciting adventure of your home buying and building journey.

Whitney Pryor: [00:00:18] Thank you for joining the Welcome Home podcast. It is a great day today and I will tell you why. This is Whitney and I've got Chelsi here, but I've got to tell you, today, I'm going on vacation. Where am I going, Destin, Florida and I am super excited!

Chelsi Frazier: [00:00:33] I'm excited for you. A teensy bit jealous, but very excited!

Whitney Pryor: [00:00:37] I'll bring you back the best seashell I can find.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:00:41] Yes, please thank you and a tan!

Whitney Pryor: [00:00:43] Well, we'll see about that. I'm pretty pale. Well, Chelsi, I'm super excited about the guest we have on today. We went and visited their showroom yesterday and I just geeked out over all of it. Can you tell us who we have on today?

Chelsi Frazier: [00:01:01] Yes, Whitney totally geeked out. Y'all should have seen her. We did get a few pictures to blackmail her later, but she had a great time. Today we have Andrew Gilbert from Texas Counter Fitters on the show. I'm so excited as well. Texas Counter Fitters provides all of the countertops for John Houston Homes, as well as our sinks, which is kind of a side note. We'll talk about sinks in a little bit, but mostly we wanted to have Andrew on the show today because countertops are a huge decision in the buying and building process. There are many different types of materials to choose from. Most people we talked to have a lot of questions and probably the most questions about countertops. They want to be educated so they can make the best decision for their new home needs and just the overall design in their kitchens and bathrooms. I'm very excited to welcome to the show, Andrew, how are you?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:01:54] I'm doing great, thanks for having me. It's a pleasure.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:01:57] Thank you for joining us. I hope you're ready for the ambush of questions we're going to ask you. Hopefully we prepared you a little bit. Before we start on the specific questions, will you just tell us a little bit about yourself? How long have you been at Texas Counter Fitters and what all do you do there?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:02:14] I work for Texas Counter Fitters. I've been working in the stone industry basically since I was 19 years old. I started out at the bottom of the stone industry, working and polishing fabrication, measuring, sales and then eventually started my own company, Texas Counter Fitters. We've been very lucky and blessed to have grown to one of the largest fabricators, as well as, stone suppliers in the state of Texas. We're blessed and we're thankful for where we are. The home industry, home building is really just taking off right now. We'll see where that goes in the future.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:02:55] That's how humble Andrew is. I literally did not know until this moment that he's the boss.

Whitney Pryor: [00:03:01] I just asked him before we started this podcast. I'm like, what do you do there? Do you own it? He's like, "yeah."

Chelsi Frazier: [00:03:07] I no idea! Wow, what a cool dude!

Whitney Pryor: [00:03:11] You've been in the industry since you were 19 years old, so you've got a wealth of knowledge because now you're like 22, right?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:03:17] I'm 34.

Whitney Pryor: [00:03:19] Oh wow, well that's awesome! Your company is amazing. The showroom, I barely have words for it. The amount of stone, the amount of option and selection that people get there is just, it's amazing. For us, we get tons of questions from prospective homeowners on what the process is like through design selection and how many options they really have. I'm here to tell them that they've got tons of options, no pun intended, because that stone is really heavy.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:03:58] Literally.

Whitney Pryor: [00:03:58] Tons of options!

Chelsi Frazier: [00:03:58] We've seen it with our own eyes!

Whitney Pryor: [00:04:00] Yes, there's tons of different styles of natural stone. I think a lot of people don't understand what those differences are in the stones. I would really like to kind of explain that to people, that granite actually is a composition of a lot of different stones, is that right?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:04:18] Yeah, that's correct. In our industry, granite has kind of become like a universal name for a lot of different things. They're throwing a lot of different types of stones into one category, calling it granite, because I don't want to overcomplicate it.

Whitney Pryor: [00:04:30] Okay, that makes sense because a lot of people don't know the differences between all of the different types of stones. Our most common stones that we see people get, from our side and from our homes, are Granite, Marble, Quartz and Quartzite. Engineered marble, I think is what our bathrooms have, right?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:04:54] Correct, yeah. To start off with engineered marble, engineered marble is basically marble dust mixed with the resin. You may remember and people may remember old, cultured marble countertops.

Whitney Pryor: [00:05:06] The seashell sinks? 

Andrew Gilbert: [00:05:09] Exactly. Cultured marble and engineered marble are basically the same thing. The one difference for us, is we just get the slabs already made, so we're not actually pouring the material. We get the slabs of the engineered marble and then we cut it to fit your bathroom countertops.

Whitney Pryor: [00:05:27] Got it. Engineered marble, since it is manmade, it's not really made for a kitchen countertop, right, as far as melting and heat resistance is not there?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:05:37] Right. It's a thinner product and it's also basically like cultured marble. Anyone that's had cultured marble, they'll understand the positives and negatives of that. It's a nice looking product. It looks very nice and it performs great for bathrooms, secondary bathrooms and things like that.

Whitney Pryor: [00:05:59] Great. Now, a lot of people do get granite on their countertops. For us, our level one and our level two granites are pretty consistent, as far as color and pattern. Once we get up to the level three's and above, is when we really encourage people and actually invite them to go out to your showroom to pick the exact slab that's going to go in their home. That's a huge benefit for our customers to being able to go out to the showroom because not all builders allow that. You kind of get what you get. It's natural stone and it's going to have some differences, but to actually go out to the yard and pick that exact stone that's going to go in your kitchen, is pretty awesome.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:06:41] It's a big differentiator for John Houston Homes. To be building as many homes as John Houston does and still have that very custom feel and approach. Being able to come out to our place, see all the stones, pick what they like and get to actually have the exact slab that they're going to have in their account and their kitchen. It's very unique. This is not offered by most of the builders because they can't control the process. We've been working with John Houston for a long time and we've created a very nice working relationship with the design center. We've made this work that's very unique. It's actually kind of cool because you're really changing the market. John Houston has changed the market because other people are trying to keep up with that.

Whitney Pryor: [00:07:33] Mm hmm, yeah, absolutely. We actually went there and saw the names of the addresses and those slabs that were picked out that are waiting to be installed in the homeowner's homes. It's just really neat to see that we had so many homeowners that had come to pick their slab and are waiting for it to be installed in their new home. It's so personal.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:07:53] Yeah, and it saves time, too, right? One of the unique things is right when the design is done sometimes now because of lead times, it takes a while to build the home. We don't say, "hey, we're not going to hold this material for you." We say, "we're going to hold it for you and let's get it figured out." That helps us also be prepared for when the jobs do come out, to be able to control our inventory.

Whitney Pryor: [00:08:18] That relationship is so important to have between us and you.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:08:23] Yeah, it's been great. I'm very thankful for the opportunity that John Houston's provided us.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:08:31] I think that just says a lot about Texas Counter Fitters as well, that you'd be open to doing something differently than everybody else does for one of your builders or for their customers. The fact that even people can walk in off the street to the showroom, look around and buy direct from you, too. You don't just work with builders. I feel like it's very relational. We felt like that when we visited it as well.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:08:55] Yeah, one of the other materials that we were talking about, I think you're going to ask about, is the Dolomite.

Whitney Pryor: [00:09:02] Yes.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:09:03] Yes, lets talk about it!

Andrew Gilbert: [00:09:03] What is Dolomite? What's really cool about that in particular with Texas Counterfeiter's and John Houston, is John Houston was the first builder to put it in a program, right? Then yall started to put it in these houses and now the whole market is demanding it, right? Now the the entire market is wanting Dolomites in DFW and it really changed the market. One of the things was, is the Brazilians, they started excavating this material. It's not as hard as a granite, but it's harder than a marble. The benefit of it is it looks like a marble, but it's stronger than a marble. It's been a huge success just because of the look of it, the feel of it and the depth of it. It's almost like you can see into the stone. It has this clarity to it. I would say it's been a wild success.

Whitney Pryor: [00:09:59] Yeah, I had noticed that we offer the Dolomite. I saw a slab of it yesterday. It looks a lot like marble and I thought it was marble. I asked Oscar, "this one's marble, right?" He said, "no, that one is Dolomite. I was like, "oh, see, I'm never going to get it." It looks just like marble and a lot of people love that look of marble, but to have it be a little bit more hardy is is really nice. That's a huge advantage, so that's really awesome. I had never heard of it, so it's neat to hear that that's kind of a newer stone on the market that people are wanting more now.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:10:36] Yeah, just like we talked about Granite earlier, being like a bucket for a bunch of different colors, Dolomites becoming that. It's becoming a new category for a bunch of different types of stones. It's that middle category.

Whitney Pryor: [00:10:50] Can you talk about that, too? What is the scale called that rates the hardness of the stone?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:10:59] Yeah, there's a commonly used scale called the MOHS scale of hardness, which is how they determine the hardiness or the hardness of stone. The strongest of that scale is a 10, which is a Diamond. Lots of women are familiar with Diamonds.

Whitney Pryor: [00:11:19] I really want a diamond countertop now.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:11:21] Yeah, exactly, then the bottom is like a Talcum. Talcum powder, Soapstone Talcum is like what's in baby powder or was. There is a big think going on right now with Johnson & Johnson. Soapstone is a countertop that we saw a lot of, even though it's on the one scale, it's a very soft material, but it doesn't absorb a lot of things. Even though it's soft, it doesn't absorb. It doesn't stain, things like that. It usually comes in a honed finish because it will etch, which is the polish on the surface getting taken away. A lot of people do it honed or weathered Soapstone and they're okay with it. Soapstone is kind of cool because you can scratch it and will  scratch it, even throw in your keys on the countertop. It will scratch the soapstone, right? You can take just a little piece of sandpaper, just rub it and the scratches go away. 

Chelsi Frazier: [00:12:20] Oh wow!

Whitney Pryor: [00:12:20] Honed, just for everyone to know, it means kind of like more of a matte finish, right? It's not shiny.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:12:26] Yeah, honed and matte are the same time.

Whitney Pryor: [00:12:28] Okay, yeah.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:12:29] Leathered is the one I like.

Whitney Pryor: [00:12:30] We're down South, so honed is a little fancy for us for words.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:12:34] It has several meanings.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:12:36] Matte is fancy for me. I think mattes like the fanciness of it.

Whitney Pryor: [00:12:42] Well maybe I'm just fancy.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:12:43] You are, I think you are fancy.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:12:46] Leathered pretty much speaks for itself. It's that feeling of leather finish on the tops if you run your hands across it.

Whitney Pryor: [00:12:51] It's the texture right?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:12:53] Yeah, leathered has a little bit of a leather feel to it, I guess is the best way to explain it. It is like a little ridges and things that you can feel with your hand. It's basically done with a brush versus a smooth piece of sandpaper. It takes off the softer spots and it leaves the harder spots behind. Therefore, you get those little ridges in there.

Whitney Pryor: [00:13:13] I think if you ever want to see an example of leathered countertops, I'm pretty sure our model home at Somerset has leathered countertops in the kitchen, that are really, really nice. Where does Granite fall on the scale?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:13:27] Granite is typically, they say, anywhere from 5.5 to 7.

Whitney Pryor: [00:13:33] Okay, so the middle of the range.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:13:35] Yeah.

Whitney Pryor: [00:13:36] Which is why it's probably very popular.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:13:38] Yeah.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:13:39] I would have thought it would be higher because it's so popular.

Whitney Pryor: [00:13:42] Well the higher is more expensive though, right?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:13:45] A little bit because Quartzite, Natural Quartzite, is a 9.

Whitney Pryor: [00:13:50] Wow.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:13:51] It's almost as hard as a Diamond. The reason that it's more expensive is because when you cut this stuff out of the mountain, when you cut the stone out of the mountain, you have to use Diamonds, right? When you're cutting something that's hard, like a 9 vs. a 7, you're using more Diamond. You're using more materials to excavate the product. Up until 10 years ago, if you ran into a Quartzite mountain anywhere around the world, nobody even would excavate it because it was too hard. Now, with the new technology and things, they're able to bring it out.

Whitney Pryor: [00:14:34] Wow, that's amazing for the Quartzite to be that hard. Usually our Quartzite is a little bit, as far as the levels go, it's a little bit higher level to get a Quartzite for your countertops. Is it because it's hard or is it harder to get that material?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:14:54] It's because it's hard. It's also because of the look. Quartzite really looks like a Marble, too. It as a very clear clarity. It's not made up of a lot of different things. Tt has this very smooth, soft look to it, but also with some movement. The look is very prized. Also, it just takes more to get it out and it's more of a rarity, right? It's not as common.

Whitney Pryor: [00:15:23] A big question that we get is what is the difference between Quartz and Quartzite? I think a lot of people think it's the same thing, but they're very different, right?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:15:33] That's correct. What we were just talking about was Natural Quartzite. That's something that is made naturally and in the ground that you dig out. Quartz, Manmade Quartz, engineered countertops, engineered stone, has a lot of names. It use to be called Engineered Granite, is basically silica sand and resin. They use 95% to 97% silica sand and then they use different resins and colors to make the slabs look any way they want to. Then they can control the process. It is like baking a cake, but they're baking countertops. The hardness of Engineered Stone or Manmade Quartz is about like a Granite.

Whitney Pryor: [00:16:22] Okay, so it's more of like the 5-6-7 range?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:16:25] It's like a 7all the time, kind of 7 to 8.

Whitney Pryor: [00:16:29] Okay, can Quartz be used in your kitchen? Do people use that in their kitchens or is that more of a bathroom product as well?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:16:38] People use it in the kitchens and the bathrooms. It's a very popular product. A lot of people are using it right now. I would say probably half of the business that we're doing is Quartz. One of the positives about Quartz, let me say this, is you don't have to seal it like you do a Natural Stone. Natural Stones need to be sealed with the sealer, basically a product that fills up the stones so that nothing gets inside of it. Quartz does not need to be sealed, so that's one of the big benefits of quartz.

Whitney Pryor: [00:17:09] The color is consistent, right? You get a consistent look every time. Is that right?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:17:13] That's correct. There is a little bit of a difference, just like there is in Sherman Williams paint or something like that. Nothing is ever exactly the same, but it's a very consistent product because it's Manmade.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:17:25] For the ones you have to seal, do you ever have to reseal your countertops after a certain amount of time?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:17:31] A really easy way to test it, is to take a little water on your hand and kind of like drip it onto the countertop. If it beads up, like you just put Rain-X on your windshield, makes a really nice dome and the water stays there, you don't need to add any sealer. If it flattens out, like when you don't have Rain-X on your windshield, the water is really hard to get off and it just seems to stay there forever, then you need to add more sealer.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:18:00] Oh, okay.

Whitney Pryor: [00:18:02] Okay. What is the best product to clean your Granite countertops with? I think we get thrown with you know, this is special Granite cleaner, buy this $10 bottle of cleaner that's just for Granite countertops. What would you suggest is the best cleaner for your Natural Stone countertops?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:18:19] Yeah, there's lots of people out there making some unique formula, that's very good to clean your countertops, I guess. I would say cleaning it with Dawn dish soap and water. That's the best thing you can do is soap and water.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:18:34] Well, you mentioned Brazil and then the stone being in the Earth. Do you ever go out to where their quarries are? 

Andrew Gilbert: [00:18:45] Yeah, one of the cool things about Texas Counter Fitters, what makes us competitive, let me say that, is that we source all of our own products from across the world. All the products that you see at Texas Counter Fitters, we bring in from the U.S., Canada and everywhere else that we also have. Everything that we have, we source it direct. The typical process of stone companies out there is you have a distributor and then you have a fabricator. What makes us a little different is we're actually the distributor and the fabricator. It gives us a chance to provide a very good service, plus a good and affordable price.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:19:28] Yeah, Oscar was saying that it minimizes the amount of times the stones are moved. Every time it's moved from place to place, it's kind of maybe compromised or there's just a chance of something happening. Is that accurate?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:19:43] Yeah, that's accurate. Every time you're handling material, it's very, very heavy. Each slab weighs like about 1,500 pounds. It's not something you want to be moving around a lot. You want to move it as little as possible. There is a chance every time you move it, something can happen to it.

Whitney Pryor: [00:20:03] Speaking all the different quarries, stones and where they come from, Brazil, I noticed, was one of the countries that a lot of the Quartzites come from, is that right?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:20:13] That's correct, yea.

Whitney Pryor: [00:20:14] They have some really beautiful stones there in the showroom that I saw. It's so interesting because those stones, it seems like they all just have a whole different history. I think one of them you mentioned, one of the Marbles was actually the same type of Marble or the same Marble that was used for the Lincoln Memorial.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:20:33] Yeah, that's right.

Whitney Pryor: [00:20:34] Oh, okay.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:20:35] I almost said monument, so you got it!

Andrew Gilbert: [00:20:39] It's a quarry in Colorado.

Whitney Pryor: [00:20:41] Wow! It's so interesting to hear the history of the stones and where they come from. This showroom, I highly recommend anyone visit. Can you just tell us a little bit more about about the new showroom that you have?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:20:56] We continue to grow, so part of that growth was to get a bigger place for our showroom. We were able to get a nice property that we were able to buy in Richardson, Texas. It's not where exactly we want it to be yet. We have a lot of work to do over there to slowly get it better and better, but people love it already. Within 4 to 5 years, we hope to have it be kind of like a staple place for Dallas, Texas and DFW in general. Somewhere where people go to just see some cool, natural art.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:21:31] Literally, it really feels like you're in an art exhibit. It's like staring art, I just got lost in the rows and rows. I would come back, look at something else that I really liked and see something different. I think you could stare at a piece for years and see new things.

Whitney Pryor: [00:21:50] How big is the showroom, inside and outside combined?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:21:54] It's four acres,

Whitney Pryor: [00:21:56] Four acres of countertops, it's amazing!

Andrew Gilbert: [00:22:00] Yeah, we're bringing in more and more every day. One of the goals is to have every type of stone that's out there that is being regularly produced in the world, available, at least ones that people want to see.

Whitney Pryor: [00:22:15] Just think if you're designing your dream home, the most you space is your kitchen and living room area. Most of our floor plans have that open concept. To me, the most important money that you can spend on the design elements of your home is your countertop, because it's such a conversation piece. Like you said, every single stone in that in the showroom is like a piece of art and it has a history. It came from a mountain somewhere in the world. It's just very, very interesting. I think if you're going to upgrade something in your home, the countertop is really a great place to start because it's so beautiful. It is, it's a functional piece of art in your home.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:22:58] It's almost like an expression of you, your family and your style. What do you have in your house?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:23:05] I have in my house a white Quartzite. It's a Natural Quartzite. It's White Macaubas, I think is what we call it here. It's a cool white and gray Quartzite. What's cool about it, like you said, is every time you go there, you see something different. You focus in on little areas of it. You see all the little imperfections and all the little things. We're talking about polishing rock kits of the day, the little ones. It's like that. You never know what you're going to see. You may see a big piece, but once it gets in your house, there always something else that you really didn't notice about it.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:23:45] Another commonly asked question we receive is about this seams, where are the seams placed? People ask that a lot.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:23:52] Yeah, we try to put as minimal seams as possible. Places you may have to have a seam or reasons why you may have to have a seam is if the length of the slab is just not big enough to acquire the size of the countertop in your house. Obviously we don't have a stretcher. We can't stretch the Granite out, do that would be one reason. One of the other commonly placed seams, is if you have a kitchen perimeter where you have an "L", where there's usually a seam there on that "L". That's basically the only two times you'll have seams.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:24:26] Okay.

Whitney Pryor: [00:24:27] You guys do a really good job. It took me months to figure out where the seam was on my countertop. You guys fill it with epoxy and they match the epoxy to the stone really greatly. It's very hard to tell whenever there is a seam.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:24:42] Yeah, that's part of the skill of our trade, right? To have the qualified people to be able to do that properly,

Chelsi Frazier: [00:24:49] People also ask a lot, how do I choose an edge or which edge should I choose? Do you have any recommendations on that?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:24:55] It's just whatever those good to you. You can see all the selections in the design center and we can basically make the edge look any way it needs to be. One of the most popular right now is flat polish. It's just rolled on the top and the bottom very slightly to prevent it from being sharp. It's just flat. People like that now because it's more of a Modern Contemporary feel. It's really just a preference. One of the things is, don't make the corner sharp, kind of roll the corner so it's softer. My thing is, it's not going to get any softer. You roll it or not, you hit your head on that, it's going to hurt.

Whitney Pryor: [00:25:38] It's not moving. Yea, that's true. I know one of the edges that I saw or that Oscar mentioned was a and I don't know what you guys call it, but like a natural edge. It looks like this stone is just broken off and the edge is jagged.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:25:55] Yeah, we call that chiseled. It's where the stone is like the chiseled side of a mountain. That's kind of what we make it look like. It's really just breaking it and then that's what you get.

Whitney Pryor: [00:26:11] That would really hurt if you had your head!

Andrew Gilbert: [00:26:16] That's a very particular edge for people because a lot of people like it. They've had it. Some people that have had it, they always want it again. Some people are like, "oh, you know, I regret doing that", because your clothes get caught on it, maybe flake or something like that because it's not tightly finished by us.

Whitney Pryor: [00:26:37] Yeah, it's definitely a particular style, I think, for someone. That's all great. You've been a wealth of information and it's been just really amazing to learn so much from you. I think that our listeners and the people that are out there shopping for a new home and getting design ideas, this has been just really good information for them to take in. To know the different MOHS Scale ratings, what the different products are and where they can go to to view more. Now, your showroom is open to the public, is that right?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:27:08] Yes.

Whitney Pryor: [00:27:09] Okay, so people can come by any time and view or do you suggest they make an appointment so that they can get one on one attention with someone?

Andrew Gilbert: [00:27:18] Yeah, we suggest you make an appointment. It's always going to be better if you make an appointment, because we can understand better what you're looking for and make sure that we're prepared to show you around. Like we said earlier, you don't want to be moving these things around, so the more we can be prepared for what you're coming to look for is better.

Chelsi Frazier: [00:27:37] Andrew, thank you again so much for joining us from Texas Counter Fitters. We really appreciate the relationship, the partnership we've built with you over the many, many years that John Houston Homes has worked with you and for the wealth of information you've given us today. Thank you so much.

Andrew Gilbert: [00:27:52] Thank yall. I'm thankful for the relationship, being able to to be here and hopefully many more years of success for John Houston and Texas Counter Fitters definitely.

Whitney Pryor: [00:28:06] Thank you, listeners, for joining us on today's episode of the Welcome Home podcast. If you would like to visit the Texas Counter Fitters showroom, the address is 909 North Bowser in Richardson. You can schedule an appointment at  or you can call or email them at 469.779.9999 and their email address is If you'd like to reach out to us and give us information or ask us questions about this podcast episode, you can call us at 866.298.1416 or reach out to us at We hope you have a great day and we look forward to seeing you on the next episode of this podcast.

Chelsi Frazier and Whitney Pryor: [00:29:01] Welcome Home.


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